sands_14
07-01 09:50 AM
Hi,
was your first labor PD before April2004?
If yes,then they might have taken that PD.
If not,maybe we can see a forward movement for PD for EB2 in coming bulletin as USCIS might be trying to use as much visa numbers as possible.
Congrats and Enjoy!
No its I-485 I just cut and pasted the two emails I received, first at 10am then the second at 3 pm check online and the system had same messages. If its true I am having a party wow man thanks I did come to US in 1997. I do have a labor which was approved under RIR PD date 2004 but the employer refused to file I-140. Then again filed PERM in 2007 under EB2 and filed I-140/I-485 based on this PERM
was your first labor PD before April2004?
If yes,then they might have taken that PD.
If not,maybe we can see a forward movement for PD for EB2 in coming bulletin as USCIS might be trying to use as much visa numbers as possible.
Congrats and Enjoy!
No its I-485 I just cut and pasted the two emails I received, first at 10am then the second at 3 pm check online and the system had same messages. If its true I am having a party wow man thanks I did come to US in 1997. I do have a labor which was approved under RIR PD date 2004 but the employer refused to file I-140. Then again filed PERM in 2007 under EB2 and filed I-140/I-485 based on this PERM
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gcbeku
06-13 09:12 PM
I am already in the porting phase. My EB2 labor is in process. I just hate to see those still in EB3 hoping their day will come. They need to port their applications right away, or those with recent filings using fake experience will be ahead of them coz EB2 gets processed first with all the spill over.
And I would rather help them than someone like you who would not even disclose your info. You are a clear example of someone trying to walk the walk of the illegal aliens.
And what makes you think it is silly socialist? Unless you are one of the new graduates with a bachelor's degree with 5 years of experience on your resume.
My bad.. I misread your post. Your words sounded as if you were complaining about ethical reasons and not porting even if you were eligible to do so. It looks like you are the right thing already by porting.
And I would rather help them than someone like you who would not even disclose your info. You are a clear example of someone trying to walk the walk of the illegal aliens.
And what makes you think it is silly socialist? Unless you are one of the new graduates with a bachelor's degree with 5 years of experience on your resume.
My bad.. I misread your post. Your words sounded as if you were complaining about ethical reasons and not porting even if you were eligible to do so. It looks like you are the right thing already by porting.
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hopefulgc
03-05 01:30 PM
Yep.
If the EB system is categorized by country quota, what is what would be the apparent use of capturing data without the unlerlying country of origin of the applicant?
If the data is truly not available, what system are they using to anticipate demand and inform the DOS?
Based on the reply to this FOIA from Needhelp!, it seems that we have a bigger problem than transparency.
They have said that country of chargeability is not assigned until case is ready for approval. However, whether or not a case is ready for approval is determined by country of chargeability. If you have 500,000 pending cases and dont know how many cases for each country of chargeability, then the only way to respond to a visa bulletin is to go thru all 500,000 cases every month, take a peek in it, look at the PD, look at the country and see if it is up for approval. I dont think they are doing that.
Also, if priority date is something that is different for different countries, then cases for those countries have to be sorted by priority date in different silos, so that when the next bulletin comes, you know how many cases are eligible that month and which ones are the earliest cases (from PD perspective) for each country.
If the EB system is categorized by country quota, what is what would be the apparent use of capturing data without the unlerlying country of origin of the applicant?
If the data is truly not available, what system are they using to anticipate demand and inform the DOS?
Based on the reply to this FOIA from Needhelp!, it seems that we have a bigger problem than transparency.
They have said that country of chargeability is not assigned until case is ready for approval. However, whether or not a case is ready for approval is determined by country of chargeability. If you have 500,000 pending cases and dont know how many cases for each country of chargeability, then the only way to respond to a visa bulletin is to go thru all 500,000 cases every month, take a peek in it, look at the PD, look at the country and see if it is up for approval. I dont think they are doing that.
Also, if priority date is something that is different for different countries, then cases for those countries have to be sorted by priority date in different silos, so that when the next bulletin comes, you know how many cases are eligible that month and which ones are the earliest cases (from PD perspective) for each country.
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Lasantha
06-19 05:13 PM
Section 501 (Rebalancing visa numbers and Z visa allocation) is effective on the first day of the fiscal year subsequent to the fiscal year this bill is enacted.
Here the fiscal Year is from 1st October to 30th September. If this bill is done within next couple of months, we are talking about 1st October 2007. This is my interpretation.
Section 502 (Merit based system) is effective from first day of next fiscal year after this bill is enacted, provided it is ateast 270 days away. So I am guessing, we would not see Merit based point system till 1st October 2008.
Yes but that is when the provisions of the bill come in to effect.
There is another clause which says "Any pending visa applications filed before the INTRODUCTION of this bill will be counted under the old system". In other words all the I-140s filed after May 15th ( Or June 19th) will have to be re-filed under the merit system if they are not approved and GC received when the Bill is in effect. That Effective date is the one you are refering to. Introduction date is when the bill was added to the senate calander.
Here the fiscal Year is from 1st October to 30th September. If this bill is done within next couple of months, we are talking about 1st October 2007. This is my interpretation.
Section 502 (Merit based system) is effective from first day of next fiscal year after this bill is enacted, provided it is ateast 270 days away. So I am guessing, we would not see Merit based point system till 1st October 2008.
Yes but that is when the provisions of the bill come in to effect.
There is another clause which says "Any pending visa applications filed before the INTRODUCTION of this bill will be counted under the old system". In other words all the I-140s filed after May 15th ( Or June 19th) will have to be re-filed under the merit system if they are not approved and GC received when the Bill is in effect. That Effective date is the one you are refering to. Introduction date is when the bill was added to the senate calander.
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Openarms
03-07 02:19 PM
Got the same letter from USCIS asking for $5000. If they are asking all the people who sent this request the this kind of money... I wonder how much money they are expecting from this "Program Writing" thing??? IV and We all have to question this insane tactics and this needs to be exposed to press and politicians. I don't think Murthy or AILA or some others do any benefit to us it is already proven many times.
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vsrinir
09-12 08:56 AM
With out passing the bill any PRESIDENT CAN NOT DO ANYTHING even if he wants to help us.
CONGRESS HAS TO PASS THE BILL. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY FOR US.
President can do ONLY VETO ON ANY BILL OR HE CAN GO TO WAR ON ANY COUNTRY. THATS ALL HE CAN DO.
CONGRESS HAS TO PASS THE BILL. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY FOR US.
President can do ONLY VETO ON ANY BILL OR HE CAN GO TO WAR ON ANY COUNTRY. THATS ALL HE CAN DO.
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prince_charming
09-12 06:47 PM
Hey guys
Just received email from CRIS regarding I-485 denial notice for both me and my wife.
I used AC21 after 9 months of filing I-485. My I-140 was approved before even filing I-485 in July fiasco.
My attorney promptly sent AC-21 and G-28 and i did see LUD on my and my wife's I-485 after that.
My previous company informed me sometime ago that they are going to revoke I-140 and probably they did and i am assuming that's what triggered this.
This is certainly a big damm mistake they did even after sending AC-21 docs and G-28.
Just received email from CRIS regarding I-485 denial notice for both me and my wife.
I used AC21 after 9 months of filing I-485. My I-140 was approved before even filing I-485 in July fiasco.
My attorney promptly sent AC-21 and G-28 and i did see LUD on my and my wife's I-485 after that.
My previous company informed me sometime ago that they are going to revoke I-140 and probably they did and i am assuming that's what triggered this.
This is certainly a big damm mistake they did even after sending AC-21 docs and G-28.
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July2007
07-26 12:16 PM
I like Fragomen. Very responsive to my emails. Good attitute and customer services.
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hebron
06-15 06:58 PM
Hi, I have a question about PERM labor process. How soon can an employer apply PERM labor certification after hiring an employee?
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kumar1
06-10 02:56 PM
I am going to hold my breath for 24 hours. DOS suckers can change the dates on the web site anytime. Last month, Mumbai consulate did similar fiasco.
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hopefull
06-09 01:16 PM
From Immigration bill drew fire from both sides (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-immig9jun09,1,3157639.story) By Janet Hook and Nicole Gaouette, LA Times Staff Writers, June 9, 2007
Just one anti-immigration group, NumbersUSA, has sent more than 100,000 faxes and made thousands of calls to Congress since Wednesday. The intensity of that anger propelled some of the bill's opponents.
To make it a fair debate and an honest opinion the senate and the congress should take the SSN of all anit immigrant groups and analyse their credit history work record etc...
Just one anti-immigration group, NumbersUSA, has sent more than 100,000 faxes and made thousands of calls to Congress since Wednesday. The intensity of that anger propelled some of the bill's opponents.
To make it a fair debate and an honest opinion the senate and the congress should take the SSN of all anit immigrant groups and analyse their credit history work record etc...
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umndude
05-17 01:45 PM
Just did it. Very easy process. Thanks to IV.
Lakshman.
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04-26 09:04 PM
Contributed $100...
Lets make this happen guys!
Lets make this happen guys!
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waitnwatch
06-26 02:03 AM
I think the country based quota has been eliminated for the "merit based" quota. Am I missing something.
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ncrtpMay2004
03-26 12:23 PM
Just to add.... porting process is legit for EB-2 as well. EB-1 is current now. :p
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The Indian CRAB is the story of how a fisherman kept a basket with crabs, uncovered. When asked, he replied " They�re Indian Crabs - If one tries to climb out, the others will pull it back in, hence there�s no need for a lid "
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The Indian CRAB - Contribute - MSNIndia (http://content.msn.co.in/MSNContribute/Story.aspx?PageID=222e21f3-f981-4a9c-9f9b-a5706f249433)
Porting process is a legit process and for well qualified EB-3 india folks thats the only ray of Hope.
You can rant about it but noone going to stop the porting process becaue the folks who initially filed under EB-3 are now eligible to get Job promotions , new roles and responsibilities in their Career and in some cases new Sr. Job positions which are qualified EB-2. By the way they do file new PERM labor and new I-140, it is not a automatic qualification just based on number of years waiting in the endless EB-3 india queue.
Under the current circumstances where EB-3 india doesnt get any spillover numbers or any such relief like VISA recapture bill, do you expect them to go behind the lines with new EB-2 PD? What about the wait period in the backlog centres, in the PERM process and for few I140 stage waiting period? Its the law and people are following it. You can try porting to EB1 if you are qualified enough and port your EB-2 PD to EB-1.
Just because you are qualified initially for EB-2 doesnt mean others are inferior and they are not eligible to port to EB-2.
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The Indian CRAB is the story of how a fisherman kept a basket with crabs, uncovered. When asked, he replied " They�re Indian Crabs - If one tries to climb out, the others will pull it back in, hence there�s no need for a lid "
***
The Indian CRAB - Contribute - MSNIndia (http://content.msn.co.in/MSNContribute/Story.aspx?PageID=222e21f3-f981-4a9c-9f9b-a5706f249433)
Porting process is a legit process and for well qualified EB-3 india folks thats the only ray of Hope.
You can rant about it but noone going to stop the porting process becaue the folks who initially filed under EB-3 are now eligible to get Job promotions , new roles and responsibilities in their Career and in some cases new Sr. Job positions which are qualified EB-2. By the way they do file new PERM labor and new I-140, it is not a automatic qualification just based on number of years waiting in the endless EB-3 india queue.
Under the current circumstances where EB-3 india doesnt get any spillover numbers or any such relief like VISA recapture bill, do you expect them to go behind the lines with new EB-2 PD? What about the wait period in the backlog centres, in the PERM process and for few I140 stage waiting period? Its the law and people are following it. You can try porting to EB1 if you are qualified enough and port your EB-2 PD to EB-1.
Just because you are qualified initially for EB-2 doesnt mean others are inferior and they are not eligible to port to EB-2.
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485Mbe4001
03-21 03:53 PM
The job description defines the EB category. There are many MS US(or worldwide) tech majors in EB3 simply because their lawyers were wimps or the job description did not support EB2.
Branding individual superiority based on the Type of visa application seems to be a desi quality...i have MS, i want EB2 etc..(i dont imply that you meant it, its just a general observation). i dont want to go into a discussion of the 'benefits' of a US Tech education with a job in an unrelated field.
You have put this in the best possible way. My allegiance to EB2 as I got my MS degree from US in Tech Major.
Branding individual superiority based on the Type of visa application seems to be a desi quality...i have MS, i want EB2 etc..(i dont imply that you meant it, its just a general observation). i dont want to go into a discussion of the 'benefits' of a US Tech education with a job in an unrelated field.
You have put this in the best possible way. My allegiance to EB2 as I got my MS degree from US in Tech Major.
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chaanakya
04-10 12:17 AM
I know this is probably asking for trouble but no movement can be credible without listening to the dissenting voices. So here is my gripe ... You cannot open a single thread or forum without being asked for contributions these days. People are told that if they dont contribute, they are not "supporting the cause".
But the stark reality is this... If you look at the IV website to see what action/progress has been made in "the cause"....there is some vague statement about Patton Boggs and how we have this lobbyist who is educating congressmen...Who exactly? How? When? Oh those details cannot be given.
There is a link about IV in the news...the last time IV was in the news was in Sept 2007 ...19 MONTHS AGO...
Then there is a link about IV and FBI namechecks...The last update is some thread in Feb 08 and this brilliant statement from 2007 ..."IV has met officials from agencies and has raised this issue in the recent past. We have been informed that there is an effort being undertaken to significantly reduce name check backlogs in the next 6 months." SERIOUSLY?? You really expect that you can convince people to contribute based on this flimsy evidence of doing "something" that you really cant tell us ??
For those asking for money, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SINGLE UPDATE ON ANY PROGRESS SPECIFICALLY ACHIEVED BY IV IN THE LAST YEAR AND HALF !!!
How can you justify this? Actually, you dont have to....There are many like me who will answer questions of panicked people about how to navigate the complex immigration system but until IV can provide some concrete proof of what specifically it is doing, how exactly it is spending the money and what roadmap of progress it hopes to achieve and whether it is on its way to achieving it....the money wells will continue to be dry.
And this new caste system of the DONOR forum which basically says screw you to everyone who has spent time, money or effort on IV and completely goes against the "Change for fairness and Justice" mumbo jumbo is a step in the right direction, IV needs to give way to an actual movement that actually does something and this DONOR forum concept will certainly go a long way in the marginalization of this site and community.
But the stark reality is this... If you look at the IV website to see what action/progress has been made in "the cause"....there is some vague statement about Patton Boggs and how we have this lobbyist who is educating congressmen...Who exactly? How? When? Oh those details cannot be given.
There is a link about IV in the news...the last time IV was in the news was in Sept 2007 ...19 MONTHS AGO...
Then there is a link about IV and FBI namechecks...The last update is some thread in Feb 08 and this brilliant statement from 2007 ..."IV has met officials from agencies and has raised this issue in the recent past. We have been informed that there is an effort being undertaken to significantly reduce name check backlogs in the next 6 months." SERIOUSLY?? You really expect that you can convince people to contribute based on this flimsy evidence of doing "something" that you really cant tell us ??
For those asking for money, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SINGLE UPDATE ON ANY PROGRESS SPECIFICALLY ACHIEVED BY IV IN THE LAST YEAR AND HALF !!!
How can you justify this? Actually, you dont have to....There are many like me who will answer questions of panicked people about how to navigate the complex immigration system but until IV can provide some concrete proof of what specifically it is doing, how exactly it is spending the money and what roadmap of progress it hopes to achieve and whether it is on its way to achieving it....the money wells will continue to be dry.
And this new caste system of the DONOR forum which basically says screw you to everyone who has spent time, money or effort on IV and completely goes against the "Change for fairness and Justice" mumbo jumbo is a step in the right direction, IV needs to give way to an actual movement that actually does something and this DONOR forum concept will certainly go a long way in the marginalization of this site and community.
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sugaur
05-21 03:40 PM
I will match dollar for dollar all contributions for the next 3 hours, if some one from IV will confirm the amount.
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chanduv23
06-12 03:22 PM
great job! I'm glad you let them know how you felt.
The reason why in today's world we always see Indians facing such problems right from Australia, here in the US, Gulf countries, European nations is because the mindset of these people is that "They deserve what they get they need not get better".
Why are our issues not getting resolved with retrogression??"We deserve what we get".
Remember what Mahatma Gandhi said to fellow Indians "To get independence from British, we must prove worthy of it"
How worthy are we? We are great scientists, researchers, doctors - tell me what not - highly educated, competitive ....
But we lack international PR skills, collectively we cannot achieve anything other than fighting among ourselves, we do not cooperate, we do not take rules seriously, we take things for granted, we compare among ourselves, .... list goes on.
Educated people must raise voice against any form of injustice. But can we all do it?
The reason why in today's world we always see Indians facing such problems right from Australia, here in the US, Gulf countries, European nations is because the mindset of these people is that "They deserve what they get they need not get better".
Why are our issues not getting resolved with retrogression??"We deserve what we get".
Remember what Mahatma Gandhi said to fellow Indians "To get independence from British, we must prove worthy of it"
How worthy are we? We are great scientists, researchers, doctors - tell me what not - highly educated, competitive ....
But we lack international PR skills, collectively we cannot achieve anything other than fighting among ourselves, we do not cooperate, we do not take rules seriously, we take things for granted, we compare among ourselves, .... list goes on.
Educated people must raise voice against any form of injustice. But can we all do it?
tdasara
02-11 10:31 AM
Does this mean filing I485 without PD current is a non-starter?
eb3India
12-10 10:20 AM
Visiting IV webiste after long time, (yes I got my GC :) ), feel nothing has changed, another flaming post from logiclife and he hopes it will touch egos of those ( as he calls them cowards), but my friend their skin so thick they won't even feel it,
I have been in this position, when I tried to start state chapter, I was not able to find single person, At that time I had EAD and sucessfully changed jobs, I knew many friends who were still in H1B and crib on every time how they have been exploited,
Anyway one thing comes to my mind, it still amazes how Mahatma Gandhi was able to inspire people out of this lot to do what they did
I have been in this position, when I tried to start state chapter, I was not able to find single person, At that time I had EAD and sucessfully changed jobs, I knew many friends who were still in H1B and crib on every time how they have been exploited,
Anyway one thing comes to my mind, it still amazes how Mahatma Gandhi was able to inspire people out of this lot to do what they did
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