billu
08-08 05:19 PM
To Simple1
What I meant to say, you�ll succeed if you have the capability (with your professional knowledge, experience and skills) in your professional filed but definitely not with USCIS.
I can say, USCIS is a great leveler in this aspect. Everybody from PhD to Programmer is same in front of USCIS. All have to wait 10+ yrs with mental tension and anxiety, no matter what your caliber is and how successful you are in your profession.
Don�t get me wrong here. I also had to suffer for visa stamping, renewals, I-94 issues, PA etc in US Visa processing (nothing sever though). At the 5th yr of H1-B, I just decided.. to hell with that.....
I don't know about you guys, but, I would be heart patient with that kind of anxiety in another 5 yrs of GC process �. Really need a lion's heart to pursue US GC now days
I agree, India is a far better option.
Assuming this discussion is about immigration/permanent-settlement and not about short term visits, work and study.
On the side note, The only problem faced in india is over population which triggers almost all other issues. If india implements onechildpolicy most of the problems faced today will disappear in few decades. Your child (note: singular) need not leave india to enjoy international level lifestyle & benefits.
As a backup plan to greencard advocacy we need to lobby the indian government to implement onechildpoilcy immediately.
ya sure n make lalu yadav the minister and ambassador for the same....
What I meant to say, you�ll succeed if you have the capability (with your professional knowledge, experience and skills) in your professional filed but definitely not with USCIS.
I can say, USCIS is a great leveler in this aspect. Everybody from PhD to Programmer is same in front of USCIS. All have to wait 10+ yrs with mental tension and anxiety, no matter what your caliber is and how successful you are in your profession.
Don�t get me wrong here. I also had to suffer for visa stamping, renewals, I-94 issues, PA etc in US Visa processing (nothing sever though). At the 5th yr of H1-B, I just decided.. to hell with that.....
I don't know about you guys, but, I would be heart patient with that kind of anxiety in another 5 yrs of GC process �. Really need a lion's heart to pursue US GC now days
I agree, India is a far better option.
Assuming this discussion is about immigration/permanent-settlement and not about short term visits, work and study.
On the side note, The only problem faced in india is over population which triggers almost all other issues. If india implements onechildpolicy most of the problems faced today will disappear in few decades. Your child (note: singular) need not leave india to enjoy international level lifestyle & benefits.
As a backup plan to greencard advocacy we need to lobby the indian government to implement onechildpoilcy immediately.
ya sure n make lalu yadav the minister and ambassador for the same....
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Hinglish
03-21 04:10 PM
I know....finally u do admit what u are .....
It doesn't really matter to me though...Point Proved..End of discussion
Hey... take 3 points from my side ...
It doesn't really matter to me though...Point Proved..End of discussion
Hey... take 3 points from my side ...
smisachu
05-30 10:51 PM
Sent a check for $50.
Wish I could attend and meet with the law makers but my in-Laws have decided to bless me with their presence.
Wish I could attend and meet with the law makers but my in-Laws have decided to bless me with their presence.
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gneerajg
07-18 10:03 AM
What u can do ask your employer/attorney for the copy of the check cashed by TSC/NSC for I-140 and if u look at the back of it you will find the receipt no. That receipt no. is the same whenever u will get ur NOA so make the photocopy of front and back of the check and submit with your I-485 application and relax
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sanju
09-12 10:33 PM
Thanks for posting 2007 cloture vote. So 53 senators voted in favor of 2007 CIR cloture. If even half of the following 15 Democratic Senators (who voted against the cloture vote) would have voted in favor of 2007 CIR, the bill would have passed the cloture vote, right?
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Harkin (D-IA)
Landrieu (D-LA)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Look, I am merely saying that it is kind of an urban legend that Democrats support immigrants. But the fact of the matter is, that is entire false belief. And beware when Democrats take over the White House and the Congress in 2008. Legal skilled community is in for a very tough times ahead.
Although, I must add, 2007 CIR was a death-trap for skilled legal community. It would have made life of skilled immigrants very difficult. But non of these 15 Democratic Senators voted against the bill because of this reason. Most of them were pandering to their base to make sure that they are re-elected. So it was good that the 2007 bill did not go through. These 15 men were in-effect our saviors from 2007 CIR :D
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Harkin (D-IA)
Landrieu (D-LA)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Look, I am merely saying that it is kind of an urban legend that Democrats support immigrants. But the fact of the matter is, that is entire false belief. And beware when Democrats take over the White House and the Congress in 2008. Legal skilled community is in for a very tough times ahead.
Although, I must add, 2007 CIR was a death-trap for skilled legal community. It would have made life of skilled immigrants very difficult. But non of these 15 Democratic Senators voted against the bill because of this reason. Most of them were pandering to their base to make sure that they are re-elected. So it was good that the 2007 bill did not go through. These 15 men were in-effect our saviors from 2007 CIR :D
gc28262
12-10 03:28 PM
Friends,
I was one among the people not attented the Plano meeting.I had to attend a very important family meet on that day. But, I didn't inform Niloufer about this.I am Sorry,Niloufer.
I also spread the message of Plano meeting by pasting flyers in Irving India stores. I was ready to attend alongwith my family. But, for the last minute unavoidable family meet. I became helpless.
Today,I convinced my friend EJSR to contribute $100 towards Omnibus fund drive.
I am sorry.
Keep going IV
This is something a texas IV aspiring member has to go through. I am sure Amma was the participant of one of the successful lawmaker meetings. There is something wrong here when IV is so harsh on a contributing member like Amma.
I was one among the people not attented the Plano meeting.I had to attend a very important family meet on that day. But, I didn't inform Niloufer about this.I am Sorry,Niloufer.
I also spread the message of Plano meeting by pasting flyers in Irving India stores. I was ready to attend alongwith my family. But, for the last minute unavoidable family meet. I became helpless.
Today,I convinced my friend EJSR to contribute $100 towards Omnibus fund drive.
I am sorry.
Keep going IV
This is something a texas IV aspiring member has to go through. I am sure Amma was the participant of one of the successful lawmaker meetings. There is something wrong here when IV is so harsh on a contributing member like Amma.
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senthil1
06-19 05:01 PM
Companies were vague on numbers. So how could they satisfy Senators. I knew only a few companies gave detail about open positions including Microsoft, Intel and oracle. How you can impress Senate or house? But anti immigrants gave all the layoff numbers, h1b numbers used and details of abuses happened for past few years. It is not just money power will win. With facts and numbers if you have money power then you can win. That is reason for past 3 years H1b numbers or GC numbers were not increased inspite of heavy lobbying.
Wow!! Do all these Hi Tech companies(including the giant one I work for) not have any teeth in the system. Sanders gets an amendment, but nothing to change the stupid MBS provisions in favor of these companies. Pending further analysis or details not known yet, seems like we can safely join our friends at numbersusa and oppose this bill.
Wow!! Do all these Hi Tech companies(including the giant one I work for) not have any teeth in the system. Sanders gets an amendment, but nothing to change the stupid MBS provisions in favor of these companies. Pending further analysis or details not known yet, seems like we can safely join our friends at numbersusa and oppose this bill.
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gapala
03-21 05:35 PM
There you go. Here is the link for the opinion letter
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
I read it, not to redicule you but, look who is quoting murthy! :D :D
I don't agree with Murthy's interpretation. Here is my take on this -
US citizen of Indian origin[/COLOR] Its convenient han!
I do not want to go back and forth with you guys. I rest it and thanks for posting the link.
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
I read it, not to redicule you but, look who is quoting murthy! :D :D
I don't agree with Murthy's interpretation. Here is my take on this -
US citizen of Indian origin[/COLOR] Its convenient han!
I do not want to go back and forth with you guys. I rest it and thanks for posting the link.
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vine93
03-05 01:03 AM
I also got the same letter from USCIS today.
Where is the core who advised us to fax letter to USCIS. Please let us know what the action plan is ?
I am ready for $25.
Where is the core who advised us to fax letter to USCIS. Please let us know what the action plan is ?
I am ready for $25.
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JunRN
09-12 12:07 PM
For me it's simple. My test case is HR5882. I have seen that Democrats fully supported the bill while Republicans are trying to stall it.
I can predict that Democrat will help us. It was during the time of Clinton when immigration into the US was easy. Visa Bulletin was almost always current. AC21 was passed during the time of Clinton, a democrat.
So, tell me. What Republican bill was passed that supports legal immigrants?
I can predict that Democrat will help us. It was during the time of Clinton when immigration into the US was easy. Visa Bulletin was almost always current. AC21 was passed during the time of Clinton, a democrat.
So, tell me. What Republican bill was passed that supports legal immigrants?
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anands26
02-13 12:03 AM
I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
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05-18 06:37 PM
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willgetgc2005
07-16 06:58 PM
I changed my law firm to www.gotcherlaw.com. Ron gothcher is very good and speaks at length,answers all questions.
If u take www.gotcherlaw.com, do insist on Ron Gother as your attorney and Peter Calrk as ur para legal. They are good.
I highly recomend. They give you time and answer all questions.
Hi,
I have read your previous posts. No clue about the lawfirm you mentioned.
speak to Ron Gotcher at www.gotcherlaw.com, in los angeles, very experienced.
best.
If u take www.gotcherlaw.com, do insist on Ron Gother as your attorney and Peter Calrk as ur para legal. They are good.
I highly recomend. They give you time and answer all questions.
Hi,
I have read your previous posts. No clue about the lawfirm you mentioned.
speak to Ron Gotcher at www.gotcherlaw.com, in los angeles, very experienced.
best.
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sledge_hammer
01-13 11:49 AM
Thanks for the reply and the blog!
Regarding your answer for question 3 - when you say "renewal" what does it mean? There is just one application form for I-131, so should I simply fill out the same form regardless of whether the previous AP is current or expired?
answes inline
Regarding your answer for question 3 - when you say "renewal" what does it mean? There is just one application form for I-131, so should I simply fill out the same form regardless of whether the previous AP is current or expired?
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english_august
12-01 11:22 PM
I've been reading some great human interest stories in various threads here on ImmigrationVoice.org. I know that there was some interest earlier in creating short videos on people who've been waiting forever for their green cards. Why not channelize this into a single place where we can gather these stories in a more compelling format?
Here's an idea that I've been toying with for sometime. If we can take all these stories from all over the country and instead of using words to describe them, use small videos (60 - 90s) or a narrated slideshow to tell these stories and have them available via a single website. We would use YouTube to actually hold the video. We could have it sliced by region/state/city. We could have a running counter to show the average number of years people registered on the site have been wating for their green card. That could be a great place to refer to the media to portray that there are some really great people out there with a compelling reason to live in this country but the green card process is a big stumbling block.
The most important part is that the stories need to be positive, not sob stories. They should bristle with energy, to convey to the people and media at large that by wasting the energy of all these people in green card process, the US is essentially not able to channelize this for more productive use. If people are interested then please email me at vikas.chowdhry@gmail.com and if there is sufficient positive response then I can get the ball rolling.
Here's an idea that I've been toying with for sometime. If we can take all these stories from all over the country and instead of using words to describe them, use small videos (60 - 90s) or a narrated slideshow to tell these stories and have them available via a single website. We would use YouTube to actually hold the video. We could have it sliced by region/state/city. We could have a running counter to show the average number of years people registered on the site have been wating for their green card. That could be a great place to refer to the media to portray that there are some really great people out there with a compelling reason to live in this country but the green card process is a big stumbling block.
The most important part is that the stories need to be positive, not sob stories. They should bristle with energy, to convey to the people and media at large that by wasting the energy of all these people in green card process, the US is essentially not able to channelize this for more productive use. If people are interested then please email me at vikas.chowdhry@gmail.com and if there is sufficient positive response then I can get the ball rolling.
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walking_dude
10-10 02:37 PM
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Can you PM me your phone number? I already PMed you mine sometime back.
You can call me or I'll call you. Eitherway it's fine. Lets talk
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DesiGuy
09-12 06:50 PM
Republicans are generally more amenable to legal immigration fixes than Dems. While not all of the Dems are bad, most of them dont care about legal immigration -- they just want the illegals. If it were not for these Dems, 5882 would have sailed through by now
I am sure NoBama will say CIR. illegals first. etc. etc.
23 (out of 31) of the co-sponsors for HR 5882 are Dems. not to mention the main sponsor is also Dem.
I am sure NoBama will say CIR. illegals first. etc. etc.
23 (out of 31) of the co-sponsors for HR 5882 are Dems. not to mention the main sponsor is also Dem.
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Regal22
07-21 07:54 AM
Subject: Injustice :mad: for people with priority dates in '02, '03, '04 etc. who are still waiting for their labor certs to be processed using the traditional process - we want to file a case against DOL's lethargy - Let us join together and file a case against DOL and bring justice to this unjustified system.
The manner in which the backlog reduction center have been processing the
labor certs seems to be very unfair for people like me and others who have been affected. I know of cases with priority dates as late as 2005 that have gone through the traditional process and have been approved already. And there are cases like mine and others with much earlier priority dates that haven't been done. This is very unfair and unjustified. It is like we have been standing in the queue for several hours and a person who came much later than me just sneaked into the queue and got his service done while I am still waiting for my turn. Also the fact that now the UCIS has made the filing of I-485 current adds more insult to the injury that I and others in my position have endured.
The fact that the I-485 was made current and then withdrawn was made a big deal and people wanted to file cases, whereas the plight of people like me who are still waiting for the labor cert to be cleared has been totally
ignored, inspite of the fact that people who applied for labor much later
have been approved through the traditional process.
We want to file a case ASAP with the DOL or other relevant
authority regarding this issue and the unfair way of the process that we
have been subjected to. So can all those folks who have been affected by this join and voice your support? We shoud put up this fight because this is in no way justified. Why would it be?
The next steps should be:
- Get all of the support we need from all affected folks ASAP
- Get in touch with a lawyer who can help us to prepare the case
- File the case in a court against DOL
- Make sure we get justice
Please join and show your support. Please help!!!
Risker,
I am very glad that you brought this point. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than suing the DOL. We may not sue DOL on their inability to clear the backlogs, but we can definitely sue them in their utter and deliberate disregard to FIFO procedures (mind that some people with priority dates in 2004, 2005 have already got their labor certifications, but some with priority dates in 2001, 2002 are still stuck). When I read on the DOL web site that they have tried to maintain FIFO, it makes me feel like puking.
Some folks have pointed that the lawsuit is not worth, as it has little chance of winning. To me personally, more than winning or loosing, it is a matter of bringing injustice to the light, as Gandhi has said something in this line: First step against injustice is to make it visible. This law suit will bring public scrutiny to the misdeeds of the DOL.
Even if all the backlogs get cleared by September 2007, severe damage has been already dealt to our lives. Though I am close to getting my labor clearance (I filed RRI few weeks back), I am strongly in favor of continuing with the law suit even after getting the labor clearance.
Let�s get IV�s attention and support in this area. Let�s talk to AILA. Let�s write letters to senators and house representatives (congresswoman Lofgren may be good person to start with). Let�s write to media personnel. Let�s do whatever needs to be done to expose this insult and injury to the immigrants who waited in the line for years and followed rules of the game.
The manner in which the backlog reduction center have been processing the
labor certs seems to be very unfair for people like me and others who have been affected. I know of cases with priority dates as late as 2005 that have gone through the traditional process and have been approved already. And there are cases like mine and others with much earlier priority dates that haven't been done. This is very unfair and unjustified. It is like we have been standing in the queue for several hours and a person who came much later than me just sneaked into the queue and got his service done while I am still waiting for my turn. Also the fact that now the UCIS has made the filing of I-485 current adds more insult to the injury that I and others in my position have endured.
The fact that the I-485 was made current and then withdrawn was made a big deal and people wanted to file cases, whereas the plight of people like me who are still waiting for the labor cert to be cleared has been totally
ignored, inspite of the fact that people who applied for labor much later
have been approved through the traditional process.
We want to file a case ASAP with the DOL or other relevant
authority regarding this issue and the unfair way of the process that we
have been subjected to. So can all those folks who have been affected by this join and voice your support? We shoud put up this fight because this is in no way justified. Why would it be?
The next steps should be:
- Get all of the support we need from all affected folks ASAP
- Get in touch with a lawyer who can help us to prepare the case
- File the case in a court against DOL
- Make sure we get justice
Please join and show your support. Please help!!!
Risker,
I am very glad that you brought this point. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than suing the DOL. We may not sue DOL on their inability to clear the backlogs, but we can definitely sue them in their utter and deliberate disregard to FIFO procedures (mind that some people with priority dates in 2004, 2005 have already got their labor certifications, but some with priority dates in 2001, 2002 are still stuck). When I read on the DOL web site that they have tried to maintain FIFO, it makes me feel like puking.
Some folks have pointed that the lawsuit is not worth, as it has little chance of winning. To me personally, more than winning or loosing, it is a matter of bringing injustice to the light, as Gandhi has said something in this line: First step against injustice is to make it visible. This law suit will bring public scrutiny to the misdeeds of the DOL.
Even if all the backlogs get cleared by September 2007, severe damage has been already dealt to our lives. Though I am close to getting my labor clearance (I filed RRI few weeks back), I am strongly in favor of continuing with the law suit even after getting the labor clearance.
Let�s get IV�s attention and support in this area. Let�s talk to AILA. Let�s write letters to senators and house representatives (congresswoman Lofgren may be good person to start with). Let�s write to media personnel. Let�s do whatever needs to be done to expose this insult and injury to the immigrants who waited in the line for years and followed rules of the game.
columban
06-09 01:04 AM
All,
I have been a passive follower on IV for few weeks now. I read the news clippings that people had posted where there was some Gautam Aggarwal who felt the point system was good. I see a press release from him that I saw floating around some mailing list.
Quite honestly even though lots of us disagree with him, he does make a very valid point. IV should consider clubbing US educated people such that 2 separate quotas can be created. Instead of banishing him as an elitist look at his point he is making by just marketing how the country is using the educated. Using a well respected university name is no different than talking about how we legals pay taxes etc. Just because we are educated and better of that the illegals as an argument is no less than elitism in that sense. I happened to go through gautamagg's post after the Guitrezz rally - read his message again sans tone. He makes a point. This CIR bill could have been good for us if we approached it positively looking at US educated people as a group too. Also his statement on the AP report about MPS being good is not totally incorrect in an environment where both EB and MPS may exist - if we can get that i.e. EB and MPS keeps both sides happy and we should fight for that. I emailed gautamagg and he did mention that the AP report cut out that part of his statement and told me to verify that with the reporter if I wished to. I think we guys need to be less passionate before we throw stones at others. IV is definitely doing a great job but people should share opinions openly on strategy - we are all humans and we may have missed an important aspect at IV - most IV folks seem to be non-US educated consultants and therefore disagree with Gautam. We really are 2 diff groups who want the same result with better partnership. My 2 cents. His press release:
For Immediate Press Release: May 28, 2007
“Grand Bargain” Immigration Bill creates issues for International Students in Economics, Finance and Business
Mountain View, CA – May 28, 2007 – The US Senate is actively debating the proposed “Bi-partisan Grand Bargain” Immigration Reform bill. While the bill does have many provisions to attract educated people from outside the US, it also creates restrictions for people with an economics/ finance background.
One of the proposals is to introduce an additional visa category for people coming to the US for graduate study. Though the proposed F-4 visa category is welcome by the international students’ community, it is unfavorable for people with a non-technical background or for people with a technical background who would like to gain additional skills outside of technology to be successful entrepreneurs. The proposed category, called the F-4 students visa, allows international students two major provisions that the existing student visa, the F-1, is restrictive in:
1. F-4 students do not have to prove a non-immigration intent. Unlike F-1 visa applicants, students coming on an F-4 visa will have the ability to have a “dual intent” at the time of applying for their visa, while entering the Unites States, or while maintaining their F-4 status in the US. Such students can have a pending Green Card (GC) application or can apply for one while on F-4 status. This is in contrast to the existing F-1 category in which a previous or current intent to immigrate to the United States negatively impacts a persons ability to obtain an F-1 visa.
2. Under the F-4 visa, instead of 12-months the students will have up to 24-months of Optional Practical Training (OPT) available after graduation. The larger time window will help students evaluate employment options while staying agnostic of visa issues.
The bill restricts the F-4 visa to people who would attend advanced degrees in the fields of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM). Such limitation to STEM alone would negatively impact the inflow of international students to other graduate programs such as Finance, Economics, and Business. In today’s dynamic global economies, technology and business work together. Over a third of the MBA class in top US schools such as Wharton, Stanford, Harvard, and Cornell comes from a technology background. Restricting these provisions to STEM degrees alone will result in a severe shortage of highly skilled international students coming to the US for an MBA due to an advantage the STEM degree holders will have over them. This will impede the abilities of many “technologists” to obtain business and finance education and will reverse the positive trend in places such as the Silicon Valley where many engineers turn into successful entrepreneurs creating wealth and job opportunities for many Americans and add to America’s competitive edge.
While the Senate has shown foresight by introducing the F-4 visa that helps in retaining people with advanced education from the US, it remains a very myopic solution to the problem it intends to address. Next week, the Senate comes back from recess to discuss amendments to this bill, this press release appeals to the Senate to consider enhancing the provisions of the F-4 as well.
Note: Hundreds of people are affected by this already. With a Masters in Computer Science from Cornell University, 7-years of technology experience in the Silicon Valley, and after paying over $ 150,000 in taxes, Gautam, issuer of this Press release, may be unable to join his MBA class at The Wharton School this year. Because he had once started his Green Card process and established an “intent to immigrate”, it is difficult for him to reverse the process and obtain a students visa. Over 3-4 years of processing wait times has resulted in many people such as him to give-up their applications in lieu of additional education. But, their past intent looms over their very uncertain future: 22 of them have connected with each other and pray that their Indian Gods stay happy with them on the day of their student-visa interviews in India and that reason and common sense prevail.
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Gautam Aggarwal
I have been a passive follower on IV for few weeks now. I read the news clippings that people had posted where there was some Gautam Aggarwal who felt the point system was good. I see a press release from him that I saw floating around some mailing list.
Quite honestly even though lots of us disagree with him, he does make a very valid point. IV should consider clubbing US educated people such that 2 separate quotas can be created. Instead of banishing him as an elitist look at his point he is making by just marketing how the country is using the educated. Using a well respected university name is no different than talking about how we legals pay taxes etc. Just because we are educated and better of that the illegals as an argument is no less than elitism in that sense. I happened to go through gautamagg's post after the Guitrezz rally - read his message again sans tone. He makes a point. This CIR bill could have been good for us if we approached it positively looking at US educated people as a group too. Also his statement on the AP report about MPS being good is not totally incorrect in an environment where both EB and MPS may exist - if we can get that i.e. EB and MPS keeps both sides happy and we should fight for that. I emailed gautamagg and he did mention that the AP report cut out that part of his statement and told me to verify that with the reporter if I wished to. I think we guys need to be less passionate before we throw stones at others. IV is definitely doing a great job but people should share opinions openly on strategy - we are all humans and we may have missed an important aspect at IV - most IV folks seem to be non-US educated consultants and therefore disagree with Gautam. We really are 2 diff groups who want the same result with better partnership. My 2 cents. His press release:
For Immediate Press Release: May 28, 2007
“Grand Bargain” Immigration Bill creates issues for International Students in Economics, Finance and Business
Mountain View, CA – May 28, 2007 – The US Senate is actively debating the proposed “Bi-partisan Grand Bargain” Immigration Reform bill. While the bill does have many provisions to attract educated people from outside the US, it also creates restrictions for people with an economics/ finance background.
One of the proposals is to introduce an additional visa category for people coming to the US for graduate study. Though the proposed F-4 visa category is welcome by the international students’ community, it is unfavorable for people with a non-technical background or for people with a technical background who would like to gain additional skills outside of technology to be successful entrepreneurs. The proposed category, called the F-4 students visa, allows international students two major provisions that the existing student visa, the F-1, is restrictive in:
1. F-4 students do not have to prove a non-immigration intent. Unlike F-1 visa applicants, students coming on an F-4 visa will have the ability to have a “dual intent” at the time of applying for their visa, while entering the Unites States, or while maintaining their F-4 status in the US. Such students can have a pending Green Card (GC) application or can apply for one while on F-4 status. This is in contrast to the existing F-1 category in which a previous or current intent to immigrate to the United States negatively impacts a persons ability to obtain an F-1 visa.
2. Under the F-4 visa, instead of 12-months the students will have up to 24-months of Optional Practical Training (OPT) available after graduation. The larger time window will help students evaluate employment options while staying agnostic of visa issues.
The bill restricts the F-4 visa to people who would attend advanced degrees in the fields of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM). Such limitation to STEM alone would negatively impact the inflow of international students to other graduate programs such as Finance, Economics, and Business. In today’s dynamic global economies, technology and business work together. Over a third of the MBA class in top US schools such as Wharton, Stanford, Harvard, and Cornell comes from a technology background. Restricting these provisions to STEM degrees alone will result in a severe shortage of highly skilled international students coming to the US for an MBA due to an advantage the STEM degree holders will have over them. This will impede the abilities of many “technologists” to obtain business and finance education and will reverse the positive trend in places such as the Silicon Valley where many engineers turn into successful entrepreneurs creating wealth and job opportunities for many Americans and add to America’s competitive edge.
While the Senate has shown foresight by introducing the F-4 visa that helps in retaining people with advanced education from the US, it remains a very myopic solution to the problem it intends to address. Next week, the Senate comes back from recess to discuss amendments to this bill, this press release appeals to the Senate to consider enhancing the provisions of the F-4 as well.
Note: Hundreds of people are affected by this already. With a Masters in Computer Science from Cornell University, 7-years of technology experience in the Silicon Valley, and after paying over $ 150,000 in taxes, Gautam, issuer of this Press release, may be unable to join his MBA class at The Wharton School this year. Because he had once started his Green Card process and established an “intent to immigrate”, it is difficult for him to reverse the process and obtain a students visa. Over 3-4 years of processing wait times has resulted in many people such as him to give-up their applications in lieu of additional education. But, their past intent looms over their very uncertain future: 22 of them have connected with each other and pray that their Indian Gods stay happy with them on the day of their student-visa interviews in India and that reason and common sense prevail.
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desi3933
03-20 10:09 PM
Yes there is and it is called visa portability. :) this is for you as well piyu, do not jump into summary so fast.
Ok, Here's what law says about so called "transfer"
D. AC21 105 -- Visa portability
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gapala -
You are mixing apples and oranges.
Visa Portability (as per AC-21) allows one to start employment after filing for H-1B petition, before H-1B petition os approved.
H-1B Transfer does not invalidate current employment status (if on H-1B status) and beneficiary can continue working for original Employer A based on that I-797 validity dates.
OP needs to explain to USCIS that he never switched jobs on new H-1B approval and continued job on the basis of original I-797 dates. He was not out of status.
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Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
Ok, Here's what law says about so called "transfer"
D. AC21 105 -- Visa portability
.....
gapala -
You are mixing apples and oranges.
Visa Portability (as per AC-21) allows one to start employment after filing for H-1B petition, before H-1B petition os approved.
H-1B Transfer does not invalidate current employment status (if on H-1B status) and beneficiary can continue working for original Employer A based on that I-797 validity dates.
OP needs to explain to USCIS that he never switched jobs on new H-1B approval and continued job on the basis of original I-797 dates. He was not out of status.
_______________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
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