Administrator2
06-13 11:34 AM
Eb3 v/s Eb2 is a nonsensical nonproductive meaningless argument. If you actively participate in speaking with the lawmakers, you would know the bogus nature of this squabble. Each one of us has a choice. We can continue with this pissing contest or we could do something to fix the backlogs. We all understand the frustration and anxiety due to the long delays. It is easy to be drawn in meaningless eb2 v/s eb3 quarrel in the virtual world when one is not privy to how things work in the real world.
If you feel compelled to engage in infra and trivia, please utilize your energy for your benefit by understanding the larger debate so that each one of us can employ our energy to fix our issues. Please use your energy in a positive manner. There is no point of this discussion. It is easy to write/post arguments just to support your own application/position in line. Anybody can do that. But such narrow minded approach will not help even a single soul on this planet, including yours. For those of you who want to continue with this bickering, you can do so at the expense of your own time. And when you engage in such arguments, please remember that whatever you all write or post about this nonsensical back-and-forth is not helping you or your family. But if you are sincere and care for this issue, if you truly care for your issue, then please consider participating actively to meet with the lawmakers to make our voices heard.
Members who actively engage in the advocacy effort know when we are saying. For example – talk to nearly 125 IV members who lead the lobby day in DC during the past week. They will tell you the bogus nature of this Eb2 v/s Eb2. Stop wasting your energy arguing thing which have no meaning. Please utilize your energy in finding fix for the backlogs because there will never ever be a bill/set of provisions only for Eb3 or only for Eb2.
If you feel compelled to engage in infra and trivia, please utilize your energy for your benefit by understanding the larger debate so that each one of us can employ our energy to fix our issues. Please use your energy in a positive manner. There is no point of this discussion. It is easy to write/post arguments just to support your own application/position in line. Anybody can do that. But such narrow minded approach will not help even a single soul on this planet, including yours. For those of you who want to continue with this bickering, you can do so at the expense of your own time. And when you engage in such arguments, please remember that whatever you all write or post about this nonsensical back-and-forth is not helping you or your family. But if you are sincere and care for this issue, if you truly care for your issue, then please consider participating actively to meet with the lawmakers to make our voices heard.
Members who actively engage in the advocacy effort know when we are saying. For example – talk to nearly 125 IV members who lead the lobby day in DC during the past week. They will tell you the bogus nature of this Eb2 v/s Eb2. Stop wasting your energy arguing thing which have no meaning. Please utilize your energy in finding fix for the backlogs because there will never ever be a bill/set of provisions only for Eb3 or only for Eb2.
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deepakjain
10-19 04:26 PM
I have been to the indian consulate couple of times and what I have seen so far is that people staying in the US take the consulate officers for granted.
People take the token and start filling up the form in the consulate itself, they will be at the window and will be pasting photograph or filling up the form itself on the counter.
I think the consulate officer should ask people that will you behave the same way at an US consulate??
People become impatient just waiting for 10 minutes as if they entire indian consulate has been waiting for them to show up at the office.
The way we Indians behave boarding a flight in US, the same does not happen in India. The way we behave with the consulate officers at Indian consulate does not happen at the US consulate. Why do not the same people trying filling up the form at the US consulate or try pasting photograph and even run to grab the original when they are at an US consulate.
We want the same level of professional at the Indian consulate then we need to show the same level of professional at Indian consulate that we show at US consulates.
Regards,
Deepak
People take the token and start filling up the form in the consulate itself, they will be at the window and will be pasting photograph or filling up the form itself on the counter.
I think the consulate officer should ask people that will you behave the same way at an US consulate??
People become impatient just waiting for 10 minutes as if they entire indian consulate has been waiting for them to show up at the office.
The way we Indians behave boarding a flight in US, the same does not happen in India. The way we behave with the consulate officers at Indian consulate does not happen at the US consulate. Why do not the same people trying filling up the form at the US consulate or try pasting photograph and even run to grab the original when they are at an US consulate.
We want the same level of professional at the Indian consulate then we need to show the same level of professional at Indian consulate that we show at US consulates.
Regards,
Deepak
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09-15 02:14 PM
Come on DC, Tri-State, Penn, Virginia, all surrounding areas!
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DallasBlue
09-05 12:42 PM
Your IV profile says you are not attending the rally, please update your IV profile to say YES so that core will have a head count :)
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gk_2000
03-28 08:33 PM
Now Tony, unless you are lacking in any confidence, you wouldn't be acting out like a big baby here. Now shut the trap up and learn to ignore the irrelevant bickerings.
Also stop siding with this MC guy as he seems to be no good.
Also stop siding with this MC guy as he seems to be no good.
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06-27 05:23 PM
I filed I-140/I-485 April 22 and received receipt notices. No appointment letter for finger printing yet and no LUDs. Texas currently processing date is April 28 for EAD. Sould I be worried?
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somegchuh
07-18 12:09 PM
bestia,
My point is enjoy your dinner, yes you can't worry about every hungry man but don't tell the hungry to enjoy the hunger! If we can't help them let's not rub it in their face. That's all I am saying. Anyway, my comment wasn't meant for you. You have shown understanding. I did see a few ppl earlier who literally asked ppl to "shut up and enjoy the ride". That really pi*** me off.
Come on, man. We are paying too much attention here. Look, there is always somebody stuck somewhere. People are stuck in BEC, in other contries. People are stuck in Afganistan, Bangalore, there are hungry people stuck in Africa. So? If there are hungry people, then I can't enjoy my dinner then? Someone always has to come and say "you enjoy and there are people stuck somewhere"? What's your reaction would be if someone come on your wedding and start complaining that he is impotent? - these are a little extreme examples, just to make a point.
Bigtime008,
Its really your judgement call if you believe whether IV is an organization that is helping BEC victims. I think the focus of this organization is retrogression relief. Nothing wrong or right about it.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
My point is enjoy your dinner, yes you can't worry about every hungry man but don't tell the hungry to enjoy the hunger! If we can't help them let's not rub it in their face. That's all I am saying. Anyway, my comment wasn't meant for you. You have shown understanding. I did see a few ppl earlier who literally asked ppl to "shut up and enjoy the ride". That really pi*** me off.
Come on, man. We are paying too much attention here. Look, there is always somebody stuck somewhere. People are stuck in BEC, in other contries. People are stuck in Afganistan, Bangalore, there are hungry people stuck in Africa. So? If there are hungry people, then I can't enjoy my dinner then? Someone always has to come and say "you enjoy and there are people stuck somewhere"? What's your reaction would be if someone come on your wedding and start complaining that he is impotent? - these are a little extreme examples, just to make a point.
Bigtime008,
Its really your judgement call if you believe whether IV is an organization that is helping BEC victims. I think the focus of this organization is retrogression relief. Nothing wrong or right about it.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
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new2H1&GC
08-31 11:28 AM
Hi all,
Sorry to be asking again, but I needed some details on changing employers before Oct 1st.
Here's the situation. I am currently on H4 and got my H1B approved this year through a consultancy with start date of Oct 1st 2007 (lucky to get through lottery).
I only have a copy of the H1B approval notice.
A few days back I got an offer for a full time position with another company (NOT a consultancy). And they are willing to do my H1B.
I learned through this forum, that applying for a change of employer before Oct 1st with an approved H1B, is like getting a new H1B only i'm already counted against the cap for the fiscal year. And because it's considered "new" paystubs are not required. Hope I've got this much right.
My questions are:
1. Are all the documents required the same as when you apply for a new H1B ? Only you also have to add the approved H1B notice?
2. Is it ok if a COPY of the H1B approval notice is sent? Consultancy had a verbal agreement with me that I should work for a year with them , but I don't think anything is on paper. Also they said they would only give me my H1B approval notice (original) once I was placed on a project with them.
3. Does the job title have to be the same? Consultancy applied as Programmer Analyst, and the new company needs a Web Programmer/Server Administrator. Would that cause any issues?
4. The new company plans to do premium processing, so if all goes well, can I start working with them as soon as the receipt notice comes in, or do I have to wait till I have the approval notice in hand?
5. Can the consultancy cause any problems for me with respect to my H1B? Is there any way they can find out about this and revoke my H1B?
If anyone has been through this and got their H1B approved with a different employer before the H1B start date, then please post your replies here. What were the hurdles , and what should I be wary of to ensure everything goes smoothly?
Sorry to be asking again, but I needed some details on changing employers before Oct 1st.
Here's the situation. I am currently on H4 and got my H1B approved this year through a consultancy with start date of Oct 1st 2007 (lucky to get through lottery).
I only have a copy of the H1B approval notice.
A few days back I got an offer for a full time position with another company (NOT a consultancy). And they are willing to do my H1B.
I learned through this forum, that applying for a change of employer before Oct 1st with an approved H1B, is like getting a new H1B only i'm already counted against the cap for the fiscal year. And because it's considered "new" paystubs are not required. Hope I've got this much right.
My questions are:
1. Are all the documents required the same as when you apply for a new H1B ? Only you also have to add the approved H1B notice?
2. Is it ok if a COPY of the H1B approval notice is sent? Consultancy had a verbal agreement with me that I should work for a year with them , but I don't think anything is on paper. Also they said they would only give me my H1B approval notice (original) once I was placed on a project with them.
3. Does the job title have to be the same? Consultancy applied as Programmer Analyst, and the new company needs a Web Programmer/Server Administrator. Would that cause any issues?
4. The new company plans to do premium processing, so if all goes well, can I start working with them as soon as the receipt notice comes in, or do I have to wait till I have the approval notice in hand?
5. Can the consultancy cause any problems for me with respect to my H1B? Is there any way they can find out about this and revoke my H1B?
If anyone has been through this and got their H1B approved with a different employer before the H1B start date, then please post your replies here. What were the hurdles , and what should I be wary of to ensure everything goes smoothly?
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SkilledWorker4GC
07-14 01:44 PM
How did you calculate 50k? Just curious.
About 50k might be remaining visas alloted for EB2 India. These 50k are the spill overs from EB1, EB2 ROW and Family Based Unused Visas as well.
In July 2007 Fiasco there have been received about 300k 485 applications. And out of that Say 200k belongs to EB3 because in EB3 it includes India and ROW also. Where as In EB2 its only India and China. Because in EB2 ROW is already current. So I presume about 100k applications are from EB2 and waiting for visa numbers. So this year 50K spill overs +9,800 rgular allotment for EB2, totaled about 60k. So 60k of this year and next year clears off all EB2 applications and make EB2 dates current.
About 50k might be remaining visas alloted for EB2 India. These 50k are the spill overs from EB1, EB2 ROW and Family Based Unused Visas as well.
In July 2007 Fiasco there have been received about 300k 485 applications. And out of that Say 200k belongs to EB3 because in EB3 it includes India and ROW also. Where as In EB2 its only India and China. Because in EB2 ROW is already current. So I presume about 100k applications are from EB2 and waiting for visa numbers. So this year 50K spill overs +9,800 rgular allotment for EB2, totaled about 60k. So 60k of this year and next year clears off all EB2 applications and make EB2 dates current.
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raju123
02-10 10:58 AM
With a due respect, I am differ with your statement on Competeamerica. Competeamerica has always promoted H1B and EB provision together. I haven't seen any time that they promoted only H1B.
I spoke with one guy at Competeamerica and he told me that IV is neutral on H1B issue eventhough all members have came through that root. Personally I am very positive with Competeamerica and it is not good for us to speak negative for this organization.
As the saying goes �the proof is in the pudding" anybody can give statements but it is the results that matter. What results has compete america achieved, they are just giving lip service. Contrast them with the health industry lobby which has achieved results year after year. Compete america ultimate goal is more h1b which they will achieve one way or the other.
Don�t get me wrong, I am not saying compete america is bad, I am just saying there focus is on H1b and not as much on EB relief. If they face a hypothetical situation where they can get either H1 or EB, they would gladly choose h1, that�s the bottom line. Its better to have somebody like compete america rather than nobody, but we need a corporate lobby whose main focus is eb relief.
And there is an important lesson to be learned from the health industry lobby. They just did not say they want CIR or skil and then went back when both cir and skil failed. They started chipping away at individual items like 50000 visas for Schedule A last year and 90000 this year from unused\recaptured visas. We should also be asking for our individual line item, 485 measure. This is how a war is won, one battle at a time. It is unrealistic to have an "all or nothing" attitude that people opposing 485 measure have. If the health industry lobby had such "all or nothing" attitude they would not have got the 50000 visas last year nor would they have been trying to get the 90000 this year. Hope we learn from them.
I spoke with one guy at Competeamerica and he told me that IV is neutral on H1B issue eventhough all members have came through that root. Personally I am very positive with Competeamerica and it is not good for us to speak negative for this organization.
As the saying goes �the proof is in the pudding" anybody can give statements but it is the results that matter. What results has compete america achieved, they are just giving lip service. Contrast them with the health industry lobby which has achieved results year after year. Compete america ultimate goal is more h1b which they will achieve one way or the other.
Don�t get me wrong, I am not saying compete america is bad, I am just saying there focus is on H1b and not as much on EB relief. If they face a hypothetical situation where they can get either H1 or EB, they would gladly choose h1, that�s the bottom line. Its better to have somebody like compete america rather than nobody, but we need a corporate lobby whose main focus is eb relief.
And there is an important lesson to be learned from the health industry lobby. They just did not say they want CIR or skil and then went back when both cir and skil failed. They started chipping away at individual items like 50000 visas for Schedule A last year and 90000 this year from unused\recaptured visas. We should also be asking for our individual line item, 485 measure. This is how a war is won, one battle at a time. It is unrealistic to have an "all or nothing" attitude that people opposing 485 measure have. If the health industry lobby had such "all or nothing" attitude they would not have got the 50000 visas last year nor would they have been trying to get the 90000 this year. Hope we learn from them.
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Michael chertoff
03-28 08:31 PM
Not sure what you mean here. MC is not angry at me, If anything he is angry at snathan :D
Also i admire you digging through my old emails to get that nugget of information out but you wasted your time going through the old posts unless it has opened your minds at last but wait !!!!! what am i thinking. You belong to the 2 gang !!!!
Also the reason for the . is very simple. I was using it to test whether my post was still being blocked by IV or not. ironic huh :)
Now i don't need to prove anything. You have done that by your reply.
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Plainspeak.. I dont get mad at females... You have lots of time and sounds to me you are single. PM me your number we can talk and pass some time.
in case you are male.. still pass me your number.. we can still talk and fight.
No point in getting angry in forum. talk to me face to face.
and for snathan, i am not mad at him i just want to know his PD..
Also i admire you digging through my old emails to get that nugget of information out but you wasted your time going through the old posts unless it has opened your minds at last but wait !!!!! what am i thinking. You belong to the 2 gang !!!!
Also the reason for the . is very simple. I was using it to test whether my post was still being blocked by IV or not. ironic huh :)
Now i don't need to prove anything. You have done that by your reply.
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Garv Se Bolo EB3 I
Plainspeak.. I dont get mad at females... You have lots of time and sounds to me you are single. PM me your number we can talk and pass some time.
in case you are male.. still pass me your number.. we can still talk and fight.
No point in getting angry in forum. talk to me face to face.
and for snathan, i am not mad at him i just want to know his PD..
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gc28262
12-10 04:44 PM
. People deserve to be treated with respect and that is something he needs to realize.
This is the spirit IV leadership should have. After all we are building an organization with human beings not mechanical parts. We should be more compassionate towards junior members and bench warmers.
This is the spirit IV leadership should have. After all we are building an organization with human beings not mechanical parts. We should be more compassionate towards junior members and bench warmers.
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rajeshalex
03-05 10:25 AM
We are not asking data from govt. We are asking the table or the data structre so that we can write a query and ask uscis to run it.
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Ramba
09-12 10:39 PM
I never understood until this point how come a letter requesting to port job using AC 21 in most cases never reach the file, whereas the letter requesting to revoke I 140 from employers are getting processed in 99% of the case. maybe its an excuse to get rid of some of the backlog :confused::confused:
Good question. They take action immediatly on I-140. If you send any document releated to 485, they may be using as a tissue paper. I sent a letter regarding my address change, they never took the action. Later I found that thro phone call, and changed the address over the phone. So, AC21 paper also not exemption. Perhaps, they may take action if send a another check.
Good question. They take action immediatly on I-140. If you send any document releated to 485, they may be using as a tissue paper. I sent a letter regarding my address change, they never took the action. Later I found that thro phone call, and changed the address over the phone. So, AC21 paper also not exemption. Perhaps, they may take action if send a another check.
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snthampi
06-11 06:05 PM
sagar_nyc, agreed. EB3 is a joke and even worst I have become a joker in front of all my friends who applied in EB2 cheating the system. Funny is, experience wise, I am well ahead of all those making fun of me but...:-(
too bad, eb3 does not even have a place to vent these days as IV forums and its thread only has discussions from EB2 members.
anyway, best of luck to everybody. the world is not fair, I am willing to fight my part to make it fair and just for all.
Totally agree with you. I know guys who worked in production support and QA applied in EB2. At the same time people like me in positions such as Architect went with the ill-fated EB3. It is sad, but is the truth.
too bad, eb3 does not even have a place to vent these days as IV forums and its thread only has discussions from EB2 members.
anyway, best of luck to everybody. the world is not fair, I am willing to fight my part to make it fair and just for all.
Totally agree with you. I know guys who worked in production support and QA applied in EB2. At the same time people like me in positions such as Architect went with the ill-fated EB3. It is sad, but is the truth.
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furiouspride
07-22 11:15 AM
Not really. Every has the freedom to chose what they like or not. Exactly because of these rude attitude of Hindi People I never speak hindi.
I'm a South Indian and I have never had issues with Hindi or Hindi-speaking people. In fact, many of my friends are Hindi-speaking and I'm quite well-versed with the language as well (why not?). You cannot make a blanket statement saying that everyone speaking a particular language is rude or has bad attitude. Just goes to show one's ignorance.
Just look around and see what's keeping this country together? You can move from NY to LA without having to think twice. Try doing that back home ;)
THINK!
I'm a South Indian and I have never had issues with Hindi or Hindi-speaking people. In fact, many of my friends are Hindi-speaking and I'm quite well-versed with the language as well (why not?). You cannot make a blanket statement saying that everyone speaking a particular language is rude or has bad attitude. Just goes to show one's ignorance.
Just look around and see what's keeping this country together? You can move from NY to LA without having to think twice. Try doing that back home ;)
THINK!
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ghost
07-19 08:03 AM
might sound the most silliest... 3) I simply cant drive in the traffic there..no matter what..??!! I feel highly handicapped there without commuting.
You'll be fine with in a couple of weeks after you run into a couple of mobile road blockers:)
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GCwaitforever
06-19 04:47 PM
Folks,
If this bill text passes, there will be a backlog center for all our I-140/I-485 petitons. We are limited by 90,000. Has anybody found any new relief for BEC candidates?
They are allocating supplemental greencard numbers for Z visa holders with a flexible limit and this supplemental allocation will go away once all Z visa holders adjust (end of page 287 and beginning of page 288).
If this bill text passes, there will be a backlog center for all our I-140/I-485 petitons. We are limited by 90,000. Has anybody found any new relief for BEC candidates?
They are allocating supplemental greencard numbers for Z visa holders with a flexible limit and this supplemental allocation will go away once all Z visa holders adjust (end of page 287 and beginning of page 288).
natrajs
02-27 10:33 PM
I have sent 15 letters today, and will send another 25 + before this weekend
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